Wednesday, June 11, 2008

Feminists: Imperialist "brother dicks" of R!68 hate women, support patriarchy

The feminist blog Women's Space discovers that Re!!!!create68 doesn't give a shit about women. Funnily (I claim) the original post is actually a plug for !R68, but after a bunch of verbiage about what the group's "feminist platform" should be, commenter Tasha learns--from R68 co-founder Barbara Cohen, it must have been, though she doesn't say--that R68 isn't going to have a women's plank at all--or even a march dedicated to the plight of women.

Here's Tasha's reaction. It's incredibly long, but D-blog readers' time is worthless by definition, so just try to ease your way into it--maybe read the all-caps parts first, where she recounts how she told Cohen off, but good. You'll get caught up in it. Of course, as with many far-lefty wordsmiths, Tasha's writing is, frankly, retarded. There are way too many defugalties to sic them individually, so here's a blanket sic: everything, including the paragraphing, SIC):

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE ok, well, I’ll make this short,

when we were talking today about the tables/parks, etc, that the 68 have permits on…the woman I was talking to,

said that there was already a very controlled agenda–that had been in the works for about a year/and a half, ok, understandable there–but, when it got to the Women’s Issues, I was met with a very cold defiance, and was in so many words told,

that they Had women that were going to speak on the anti-war, immigrants rights, and civil liberties, pretty much, for the Chicano groups here, and for MoveOn.org/and those groups,

and it wasn’t going to be possible for ‘room’ for a Woman’s platform and besides, they are ‘mixing’ women’s concerns in all those issues because they are linked–

meaning, o.k. for those of you who may not be acquainted with how far left/fringe groups work here…[and this is something that has been transpiring within the far left for couple of years, changes so, its long story], but anyway,

summing it up, o.k., they don’t Want any anti-patriarchy [one, if offends many Chicano groups [MEN] and other Nationalist type of groups [MEN] and some of the anti-war groups [MEN], etc etc etc., and then,

though she’s feminist [she said like at the end of our talk....arrrrgh], feminism must be combined with you know, what the MEN want. In other words,

any feminism that isn’t in accordance to Obedience to MEN, is not allowed. That type of crock, the we want women’s rights but Inclusion, geesh if I hear that damn word again, Inclusion I’ll scream,

pretty much, we’ll tolerate women’s rights/if its under MALE PATERNALISM,

well, then she said, that they put out bulletins on mail lists for past year [funny I'm on most of them and never saw a one] AND that they had all the permits pretty much to the parks, and that if Any woman’s group or any other group wanted to table, they would need to get approval from such and such blah blah blah Blah blah…

in other words, its not grass roots–thats in name only–its controlled by a very tight group here, I’ve dealt with some of them before, and, well Then I found out, I guess when this whole 68 started, there was a split,

and its over those control issues, so, and the really hilarious thing is, the certain people who are holding the strings somewhat, are not low income, they are not like, o.k., the radical bent, many are in the Academia-Activism [they have a lot of tight control here too], and its not just like, in women’s rights,

but like, we’ve run into this too when addressing poverty issues, and so forth. Its very paternalistic, and very hard for smaller groups or groups that are a different nature, to get in, you have to pull a lot of strings and jump a LOT of hoops,

and usually that can be done, but because this is like the DNC and all the stuff around Obama–there are some other agendas going on and, well,

put it this way, the DNC, is very insulated from critics. By, the critics around DNC–does that make sense?

How they pulled this off I don’t know, well, no, I do know, but, well, it will be a nice show piece–


now, what Was interesting,

the woman really wanted to pump me for information about the women coming down for the Women’s March or the ones for Hilary–and wanted me to bring all this info–

forget it, their problem, not mine. I’m marching with the women, if there are women who want to march IN OPPOSITION TO MISOGYNY AND PATRIARCHY…

otherwise, the rest, can go fuck themselves [pardon the french].

I’d be the same way if it was like, having to choose whether to march with the rich rather than against poverty, in other words, I have several times refused to work with those segments of progressives that are just down outright snotty shits to the poor–they use the poor and their misery to boost their pr image, and I won’t work with them either…

and same way with women’s rights, either they are Against the oppression of women in Every area, or they are not, and, this woman was a die hard Sell out,

anyway, I guess I had just had about enough, and I asked her, “if you are a feminist and all these other women then Why in the hell didn’t you push for a Women’s Rights platform a year ago”,

no answer, just, the same ole crock of crap–like, these are the types that go, yea I’m feminist but I support men’s right to porn type of mentality,

or, I’m feminist but hey, if they want to rape three year old little girls who are we to say anything, its their culture,

that crap and I do mean crap. You know I never could figure how a woman, professing to be for Women, could sit there, and say,

damn I want my abortion rights and there shouldn’t be rape but, oh, wait, if They rape and forbid abortion, well who are we to say anything because that is just, well, whitey type of imperialism and all that garbage…oh, Thats right,

I forgot, all those women/girls like being raped and oppressed…

its almost like, back long ago, the belief that, “oh, well those slaves you see why they Like those strappings because it shows them the white masta knows whats best for them”,

Seriously, its that kind of twisted mental thinking…and yet, we Tolerate it, when it comes to women.

Well, I mean I just I don’t know, went off…not like, crazy went off, but like, really Direct went off,

and I asked her, dead on, “When do we Address and stop Enabling all the Excuses for the shit men do to women, and When do we stop the hypocrisy in our demands against imperialism but then we Tolerate all forms of male imperialism against women, their bodies, their futures, their lives, their spaces, and When do we END violence against women and stop pandering to every misogynist out there, etc.,

and of course it was the repeat, repeat we’ve organized blah blah blah, you know, the diversion tactics,

then, I said, “you know what, you’re right, why not, instead, set up an Embrace Patriarchy platform and just say it, lets revert all the progress we’ve ever made as women, lets make domestic violence legal again, lets not do anything about rape and not only that, lets just tell women to shut up and take it, lets go back to no birth control and no abortion and no choice and lets go back allow Sharia and fgms and all the abuse and just tell women to shut up and be obedient and go back to their place,

and, lets do that because THEN, WE’LL HAVE THE SUPPORT OF OUR BROTHERS AND THE SUPPORT OF ALL THE MEN AND WE WON’T EVER HAVE TO EVER AGAIN

BE CONCERNED WITH OFFENDING CULTURE OR RELIGION OR HIERARCHY OR RAPISTS OR PEDOPHILES OR ALL THE FAR LEFT MEN OR RIGHT WING MEN, OR OFFENDING MINORITIES AND ALL THE OTHER RIGHTS THAT WOMEN ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE A BACK SEAT TOO,

WE WON’T EVEN HAVE TO BE CONCERNED WITH OFFENDING THE ANIMAL RIGHTS BECAUSE EVEN ANIMALS HAVE RIGHTS AND FIGHTERS FOR THOSE RIGHTS TO BE FREE AND TO DEFEND

BUT DARE A WOMAN GET ANGRY ABOUT BEING RAPED OR ABOUT HAVING A GUN SHOVED UP HER ASS LIKE IN THE CONGO OR HAVING HER ORGANS ALL CUT UP SO SHE NEVER FEELS ANYTHING SO HER MAN CAN GET OFF KNOWING HE’S GOT THE CONTROL AND DARE A WOMAN GET ANGRY IF A MAN BEATS HER,

WHY, SHE IS SUBHUMAN AND DON’T YOU KNOW, THE BITCH SHOULD JUST SHUT UP AND TAKE IT…

so, I said that to her, and then I said, “and not only would we not have to offend, many of you women would just lie down and take the shit because god forbid if you ever offended any man or POLITICAL GROUP OR YOUR BROTHERS,

OH HELL NO….WOMEN DON’T GET ANGRY AND DON’T DEMAND A GODDAMN THING, CERTAINLY NOT HUMAN RIGHTS, NOT YOUR HUMAN RIGHTS BECAUSE YOU AREN’T EVEN HUMAN, YOU’RE JUST A HOLE, AN ASHTRAY FOR THEIR PENIS…

BUT, OH, IF YOUR BROTHERS WANT YOU TO BE A SUICIDE BOMBER THEN OH HELL YEA SISTER, YOU’RE A FEMINIST…

Anyway, she was Really quiet, and I told her…thats where we are at, and in the silence and Accomodation to Big Brother [right, left, religion, Black, White, Arab, Chicano, whatever],

is Exactly–all that I said, is what You agree too…so,

why not just set up a Platform like that, and just be Done with it…

all of a sudden there was this silence and then this, from her, “well, people know these things go on, and there is concern”,

I mean, Geesh, fricking, What can I say, I mean, when you put it the way I did and if That didn’t make any woman livid…something is WRONG IN THE MIND THERE,

you know, really, really wrong…

of course I gave more examples, oh, and then, there was a part that she said, well we have a woman talking about prison rights [men's rights I'm sure], and I mentioned the New Jersey 4,

and of course she was like blowing me off there [this was before I went off] but I said, thats nice, prison rights, sure, But we need a Platform that addresses Women’s rights because These women are in Prison for fighting being RAPED because goddamn they didn’t lie down and just take the shit and not only that, well by golly they weren’t Het women so you know, how DARE they not want to like, be fucked by some man, and now they are in Prison for doing what ANY HUMAN BEING WOULD DO AND FIGHT, WHICH IS SURVIVAL INSTINCT…if one is in touch with their Humanity,

and of course, she said nothing,

and I was just like, Geesh I might as well be talking to some damn Bible thumper submit to your husband woman,

arrrrrrgh…but you see, the Reason I get so angry, this isn’t a Bible thumping woman/or group,

these are women and groups that will RISK ARREST AND ALL SORTS OF CRAP–TO FIGHT FOR NATIONALISTS AND MARXISTS AND PALESTINE AND HEZBOLLAH AND ALL THAT…

BUT DARE FIGHT FOR WOMEN?

I’m sorry, I just had to share, I know, probably should have been more civil, but you know, when they told me that the just didn’t have ‘ROOM’ for Women’s Rights,

something just Went off in me…and I mean, off…

i”ve gone off about poverty, and about porn, but this was the first time, that I went really off, about Women’s Rights in the way I did today…IF that had been at the protest,

my ass probably would be sitting in jail right now, but you want to know something,

I”m to that point. I am to that point where I am Sick to death, of the apologetics and the pandering and the tolerance and the fear and the putting up with all this SHIT THEY DO TO WOMEN…

I am Sick of it. And, Goddess Morrigan help me, I just don’t have it in me to be civil anymore…not to Rape, not to Violence, not to Men who rape and laugh and not to the Women who even Knowing the horrors,

will sit there, and silence a woman’s right platform because Goddamn,

it just might offend brother dick.

Fuck that…

Hell or high water, somehow, I’m going to march or show posters or Something at that DNC…I might even chain myself to a bench somewhere with a huge ass poster or sheet with NO MORE TOLERANCE FOR MISOGYNY, or something…

you know I thought about many of you today and you all are like civil and calm, I don’t know how in the hell you do it, seriously I don’t,

and, I don’t know if I want to be civil, to the beasts who just do all in their power to hate and kill women slowly,

I don’t want to be civil and just hang on to this unrealistic hope that, pie in the sky it will be better in the next life…

I could go to like so many groups and offer myself as a sacrifice to animal rights or to Palestinian rights or Nationalism [white or black doesn't matter, they're all the same shit], or to the Aztecas or to the gangs or to the anarchists–

and they’d be like oh sweetie we love you and you’re so this and we support women blah blah blah [and of course with the do you wanna fuck shit], and then, yea, That kind of feminism they LOVE…

but DARE, DARE offer or STAND to be Radical or even violent in self defense as a Woman FOR WOMEN…even in, like if they were killing us and raping us right there,

it would be, How dare you be angry and how Dare you even contest…and, oh, we Must not Offend our Dear Brothers.

FUCK THE BROTHERS…

jgm again--Sorry, every time I started to cut Tasha's ignoration down another mind-boggling example of incoherence, insanity, inanity, stupidity or outrageousness stopped me. So I just posted the whole comment. I even gleaned a couple of hmmmm newsbits from ol' Tash, like that some disgruntled feminists are trying to put together a Million Woman March for the convention. It's subtitle: "Rise Hillary Rise" (which I believe the Manson family painted in blood on a wall during one of their murders).

And this, from the body of the post, when Tasha still thought R!68 was cool:

We have a permit to use park but no marches-–it is in court [ALCU] has taken the case, they are waiting for resolution on this matter, if we do not acquire the permit there is going to be a march–THERE WILL BE ARRESTS and tragically–there is some new ‘torture’ devices the police will be using against protesters so if you do come down please be aware that there will be risks.

Yes, she called the crap cannon "tragic." But what immediately struck the D-blog* was this: "THERE WILL BE ARRESTS."

A little bunny must have told her.

*The D-blog has a steel-trap mind. Unfortunately it's one of those leg-hold traps that animals will gnaw their legs off to get out of, so the D-blog also has, like, lots of little raccoon and possum legs sticking out of his head. It's embarrassing.

Update: Wonder what Tasha would think of Glenn Spagnuolo's good bud, Ben "Patty Calhoun Should Be Fucked With A Wood Rasp" Whitmer?

Update: JWP went and googled the Goddess Morrigan. We sincerely wish he hadn't.


Morrissey, er, Morrigan: Hot, hot, hot.

And here's some Morrigan poetry. It's quite wonderful. You should read it. (Homer Simpson voice and shaking fist): Reeeaaad iiiiit.

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